Contract Extension
Proposal Questions and Answers
Updated December 2nd – 3pm
Q1: How did this come
about?
Q2: Why didn’t you announce this?
Q3: What does this “contract extension” mean?
Q4: Why is the union leadership recommending this contract
extension?
Q5: Who was involved in these discussions?
Q6: What happens if this gets voted down?
Q7: When where and how do we vote?
Q8: How will we be notified of the results?
Q9: If we have further questions, who should we talk to?
Q10: What happened to all
the other provisions of the contract?
Q11: When will the Ratification Bonus be paid by?
Incentive Plan
Q12: What is this new
incentive plan?
Health and Benefits
Q13: When do the
co-pays, premiums, wellness go into effect?
Q14: There is now a monthly premium added for the Traditional
Medical Plan, why is that?
Q15: What is the 10%
escalation factor?
Q16: What improved in
Health Care Benefits?
Q17: What is formulary vs. non formulary?
Q18: What is the member pay the difference on prescriptions?
Q19: What is the deal
with the Wellness Program?
Q20: What about the
Cadillac Tax?
Q21: What about Retiree Medical premiums?
New Joint Union/Boeing Council
Q22:
What is it?
Q23: What is the meaning of “ability to utilize non-Boeing labor
for certain types of work”?
Job Security
Q24: How can we be
confident the 737 MAX will be built here?
Q25: What other Job
Security is there in the proposal?
Q26: What is the
Supplier Warranty Work piece?
Misc. Questions
Q27: If I am
on a leave, can I still vote?
Q28: If I’m
on a leave of absence do I qualify for the ratification bonus?
Q29: What happened to the Holidays
(Independence day, Memorial day and Labor day 2012?
– NEW
Q30: The Incentive plan language refers to attachment B, where
is attachment B?- NEW
Q31: The wellness plan seems to be an invasion of my privacy,
how can the Company require us to take this wellness assessment? – NEW
Q32: What happened to Education benefits?- NEW
General Questions and Answers
A: As you know, we meet
regularly with Boeing executives. As a result of these meetings, Company
executives approached us to ask if we could discuss next year’s negotiations.
We agreed to listen to what they had to say, to see if we could come to an
agreement on a proposal to put forth to the membership for a vote.
Q2: Why
didn’t you announce this?
A: We all know what happens
when outside influences get involved in our business. Whether it be politicians, the media or the general public at large,
the public discussion about our Boeing contract talks muddies the water and
makes it hard to take care of the business at hand. So, this time, we decided
to see if we could just talk about the issues important to both sides and to
see where the talks would lead.
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Q3: What
does this “contract extension” mean?
A: Should you vote to accept
it, the current contract and all the provisions in it will be extended -- with
negotiated modifications in several key areas, like compensation, benefits and
job security.
Q4: Why is
the union leadership recommending this contract extension?
A: Because our job is to
negotiate fair and equitable contracts for you, our membership and when we
believe we have an offer that does just that, we will always recommend it.
Q5: Who was
involved in these discussions?
A: As soon as we determined
that Boeing was willing to talk particulars about a contract extension, we
brought in all our experienced negotiators from various committees to meet with
the Company’s representatives. The discussions for the IAM were lead by GVP
Rich Michalski, Aerospace Coordinator Mark Blondin,
District President
Q6: What
happens if this gets voted down?
A: In the short term –
nothing. The contract between the IAM and Boeing will remain in place, and we
will start all over in 2012 to negotiate a contract through our normal process.
Keep in mind that could very well jeopardize our securing the 737MAX for this
region. However, we believe that we were able to address the issues you
identified in the survey with this proposal while preserving a future for you
and other members at Boeing for many years to come. We trust you and the rest
of our membership will see this package as a good thing and vote to accept it.
Q7: When
where and how do we vote?
A: How – Members in good standing will be sent an “eligibility card,”
which will go in the mail Friday.
When - On
next Wednesday, December 7th, members will be able to stop by any Puget Sound
Union Hall and cast a ballot to either accept or reject. There is no strike
vote this time.
Where – Our Union Halls in
Q8: How will
we be notified of the results?
A: We’ll post results on our
Web site (www.IAM751.org), send them to
home e-mail addresses and distribute them via our social media sites, like Facebook and Twitter. We’ll also work to get the results
out through the news media.
Q9: If we
have further questions, who should we talk to?
A: You’ll receive a summary
of the proposed contract extension online and copies will be available at Union
Halls. Union Representatives will be briefed on what all the changes are and
what they mean as soon as possible. If you have specific questions, write them
down and get them to your Business Rep so he/she can get you answers.
Q10: What happened to all the other provisions of the contract?
A: This is a contract
extension. Any language currently there remains unless otherwise mentioned in
our synopsis of changes.
Q11: When
will the Ratification Bonus be paid by?
A: Although the Company
initially committed to pay the ratification within 30 days, we pressed as a
show of good faith if they could get it to our members before the holidays. The
Company has indicated to us that they will be able to pay it on December 15th
the normal pay day for our members should they ratify the extension on Wednesday.
Incentive
Plan
Q12: What is
this new incentive plan?
A: It is similar and modeled
after the IAM/Boeing plan
In
addition, if after implementation Boeing terminates the Incentive Plan for any
reason prior to Sept. 8, 2016, eligible employees will receive a 2% lump sum
payment for each performance period that includes or is after the termination
date of the Incentive Plan and precedes the termination of this Agreement.
Again,
this plan is modeled after the plan in the IAM/Boeing contract in
Keep
in mind ,
History of
2000 payout: $1280
2001 payout: $1365
2002 payout: $886
2003 payout: $1093
2004 payout: $1256
2005 payout: $1508
2006 payout: $1503
2007 payout: $1499
2008 payout: $1209
2009 payout: $1141
2010 payout: $1727
Health and
Benefits
Q13: When do
the co-pays, premiums, wellness go into effect?
A: Premiums - Over a year
from ratification (Jan 2013) (i.e. 20/40/60 on TMP)
Co-pay increases – Over a
year from ratification (Jan 2013)
Wellness Program – Over a
year from ratification (Jan 2013)
Note - Members
will have a chance to choose what plan they want to be in during open
enrollment (November 2012) before different premiums take affect.
Q14: There
is now a monthly premium added for the Traditional Medical Plan, why is that?
A: The Company told us what
their top needs were and we told them what our top needs were. One of Boeing’s
“must haves” was sharing of ever increasing health care costs. Our members have
had access to a zero-out-of-pocket premium plan for years. That’s largely due
to strike action settlements, which resulted in “back to book” benefits, which
meant we held on to no premiums for one plan, but also meant there haven’t been
any improvements in benefit levels for 10 years. This proposal increases
benefit levels in some areas and also increases out-of-pocket costs in other
areas. Currently the company states they are paying on average over $16,000 per
year per member to provide health care benefits. Our member’s share of that
number was roughly 8 percent, taking into account deductibles, co-insurance,
etc. As part of the overall package, Boeing said it needed us to pay more of
our health care costs if it was even going to consider job security
commitments. So there was give and take
on that.
Q15: What is
the 10% escalation factor?
A: Beginning in 2014, there
will be an additional health care escalation factor added to whatever you
individually are paying in the form of a premium rate. For example: If you are
single and in the Traditional Medical Plan paying $20 per month, beginning in
2014 you will then be paying $22 per month. As you know Health Care costs have
been going up every year and having this costs-sharing escalation factor is
something the Company insisted on as a trade-off for our job security language.
This still means that Boeing will have had to eat the costs of increases in
2012, because our monthly premium contribution would not go into effect until
2013.
Q16: What
improved in Health Care Benefits? - Revised
A: Increased Vision coverage
for contacts to $120 (was $105) increase coverage for frames to $90 (was $70),
Dental coverage increased to $2,000/yr (was $1,750), Class I (preventative
care) increased to 100% coverage (used to be 70% to 90% depending on whether or
not you got your teeth cleaned every year). Class II increased to 80% coverage
(was 70%), Class III increased to 60% coverage (was
50%). Revised –
Hearing aid benefit increased to $800 (was $600)
NOTE: CORRECTION: There is no change at all to the prepaid dental.
Everything remains as current language. Original summary noted $10 co-pay and
co-pay varies were incorrect.
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Q17:
What is formulary vs. non formulary?
A: Doctors often have
several drugs to choose from when treating a medical condition. They are
classified into 3 groups: generic, brand
formulary and brand non-formulary, Generally,
non-formulary drugs are those “exotic” drugs, the “latest and greatest” drug
that just hit the market and you see advertised on TV allot. They are often the
most expensive because the pharmaceutical company has to recoup their
development costs and pay for the advertising. That’s why they cost you more.
.. Formularies are name brand drugs that have been around for awhile but are
still protected by their patent.
Formulary drugs are effective and cost you less when a generic is not
yet available.
Q18:
What is the member pay the difference on prescriptions?
A: Currently members are
using “generic” drugs at the rate of 74% when all others are at 97% usage.
Brand name drugs are much more expensive than their generic substitute thus
driving up the cost of health care. Much of this is due to lack of knowledge of
what is available or due to the Doctor prescribing a certain name brand drug
not knowing there is a generic available. Name brand drugs are priced by the
pharmaceutical company and they can charge whatever they want for it. Name
brand drugs go through a patent protection period (usually 20 years), but once
that protection is lost, other pharmaceutical companies can produce the drug
and make it available at a much lower cost. The pharmaceutical company doesn’t
send out a bulletin necessarily telling the doctors when a generic is
available, so the doctor often continues to prescribe what they become used to instead of a less
expensive but equally effective generic drug. So, this “member pay the
difference” language says basically we need more people to ask for the “generic
equivalent” when getting a prescription. If there is no generic available, then
the name brand is covered at the normal co-pay rate.
Good example – Lipitor is a name brand formulary drug whose
patent just expired yesterday, Nov. 30. As a result, today there are generics
available which takes the cost of each pill dramatically lower.
If members are adamant about
wanting the name brand drug when there is a suitable and effective generic
available, they will now have to pay the generic copay
plus the difference between the cost of the name brand and what the generic
would have cost.
Q19: What is
the deal with the Wellness Program?
A: In an effort
to help reduce the rising costs of health care, the Company has asked us to
help promote the use of the wellness program assessment questionnaire.
Studies show that if you are aware of your health status it can help to
reduce preventable diseases such as diabetes and heart disease (the silent killer),
which ultimately reduces the need for costly prescription drugs.
First off, be
assured that we have negotiated the right to work with the Company to ensure
the “required” assessment questions are more pertinent to health related
questions rather than what is your income, do you ride a motorcycle, or smoke?
(as is in the current questionnaire).
As you may
already know, it is currently being offered at Boeing to take voluntarily with
a $50 gift card incentive.
What it means to
you?
In 2013, if you
choose to participate, it will result in no additional increase to your monthly
premium. We highly encourage you to participate because:
1)
You
only have to answer the “required” health related questions (agreed upon by the
Company and the
2)
You
do not have to know the answers to your health questions. You can guess (there
is no wrong answer)
3)
You
will not be required to do follow up screenings or take phone calls from a
health coach (only if you choose to).
Bottom line, all
you have to do is answer the required questions. There are protections in place
that no one will be held accountable for wrong or no answers. Once you do the
survey, the third-party wellness group Boeing contracts with will notify Boeing
that you qualify for no additional premium, but they are not allowed to share ANY of your personal data with Boeing.
Also the Company is not legally allowed to know how you answered the questions
(per HIPPA laws).
Keep in mind,
the Joint Committee on Cost and Quality (IAM/Boeing) will be jointly revamping
the online survey from where it is today. The goal for the company is a
healthier workforce which will result in significant savings in health care
costs overall. The goal for the IAM is to protect our members’ privacy, ensure
proper security of information is in place, questions being asked are pertinent
to wellness within reason and easy enough to avoid any additional charges. Yes,
it would be great to have healthier members and it will save lives, but we are
there to ensure the information is as secure as possible and will not be used
for inappropriate reasons.
Q20: What about the Cadillac Tax?
A: We,
our members will pay nothing on any "Cadillac tax". The Company only
would be responsible for that and only IF
it got so high to the threshold of 27,500/yr for a family in 2018. $10,200 for individual not including vision, dental etc.
Boeing is not even close. Those thresholds also increase every year.
This is
on them (the Company), not us. But we will be working with the company through
the Joint Committee on Cost and Quality (IAM/Boeing) to reduce costs so the
company never gets to that threshold so they don't later complain about a need
to "share" those costs too.
Q21: What about Retiree Medical premiums?
A: Retiree medical premiums will remain unchanged from where they are today.
New
Joint Union/Boeing Council
A: This will be a committee made up of the highest level of
Company and Union leaders, including top Boeing vice presidents from Longacres and Chicago, and senior IAM leaders from both the
International and District 751. The committee will meet on a monthly basis to
address concerns at the highest level – something that’s never been done
before.
The goal is to keep the communications lines open so that leaders
on both sides can focus on problems quickly and get them resolved.
We believe that, over time, this will foster a better working
relationship between the Company and the
Q23: What is the meaning of “ability to utilize
non-Boeing labor for certain types of work”?
A: There is a situation where a vendor would have a proprietary process or
patented system where only they and their respective employees would have the
ability to do a certain process on Boeing property. That is all this particular
piece is referencing. Relates to less than 10 people
currently.
Job
Security
Q24: How can
we be confident the 737 MAX will be built here?
A: The Machinists, through
this process landed a commitment for the 737MAX to be built in
Q25: What
other Job Security is there in the proposal?
A: A commitment that the
supporting shops for the 737MAX will
be in
In addition, Tanker work “will be performed in the
Company’s current and existing facilities in Puget Sound,” in the event the
Company decides to place Tanker work now done in
P-8 Production Work “will continue” in
And as for,
Q26: What is
the Supplier Warranty Work piece?
A: Boeing suppliers have
hired a bunch of people to do what is called “warranty work” on the 787 in
In any case, Company has
committed to reducing the amount of workers from PlaneTechs
to a minimal number by June 2013.
Miscellaneous
Q27: If I am on a leave, can I still vote?
A: Yes at any of the
voting locations as long as your membership status is up to date.
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Q28:
If I’m on a leave of absence do I qualify for the ratification bonus?
A: Only if the leave
is less than 90 days. Or military leave per 6.6(b).
Q29:
What happened to the Holidays (Independence day,
Memorial day and Labor day 2012? - NEW
A: Nothing. They
are captured in our current contract up to September 2012. This would be a
contract extension so the remaining holidays after September 2012 would be
captured in this extension.
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Q30:
The Incentive plan language refers to attachment B, where is attachment B?- NEW
A: Attachment B
is currently in draft. It is up to the Joint Committee IAM/Boeing to finalize
this document to include the transparency, measurable and deliverable targets.
Although its modeled after the
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Q31:
The wellness plan seems to be an invasion of my privacy, how can the Company require us to take this wellness assessment? - NEW
A: The Company
cannot require you to participate in this program. It is voluntary. Although
there is an additional premium should you choose not to take the assessment
beginning in 2013. However, through the Joint
Committee on Cost and Quality (IAM/Boeing), we have reserved the right to make
changes from the current wellness assessment you would see if you went to it
today through Total Access. There are many questions on it currently we will be
removing or modifying because they are not pertinent to the goal. The committee
will also be making changes to the terms and conditions of this program as the
current terms and conditions are absolutely unacceptable in protecting our
member’s privacy. This was the mutual understanding at the table.
The IAM’s goal of that committee is to make it as easy as
possible and as secure as possible while still meeting the goals of the
wellness initiative.
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Q32:
What happened to Education benefits?- NEW
A: Nothing, they remain fully in tact. This is another positive under this
contract extension. While others have lost their education benefits or are
severely limited, we were able to preserve these through this contract
extension.
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More Q and A’s to come as we
receive feedback from members.